Curse

Flying-Eagle · May 31, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Hello. I would like to obtain your thoughts and feelings on the following suggestion:

"Why should the Survivor Title Track stop when you die once? I understand that it is the end of the "survival", however would it not be better for it to be continuously available? What I mean is that why not have the Title Track "reset" when you die? It would be a lot more useful in the sense of people could then concentrate on the title track later in the game or at least try again."

What do you think? Should this be put into the game updates?

Blunt Feather · May 31, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

/signed
i hate my survivor title and i was 20000xp approx away from 2nd rank and died and i've spent 120k+ on that char and don't want to start again

Panais · May 31, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

survivor is about surviving, not dying and then surviving
/not signed

Tyla · May 31, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

/No.

There has been other threads on this. (Several, actually)

BlackSephir · May 31, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Here's my suggestion- leave it as it is.
DISCUSS

Flying-Eagle · May 31, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panais

survivor is about surviving, not dying and then surviving
/not signed

I disagree strongly. You can still be a survivor even if you have died because a survivor is classed for living for a long period of time. So, even if you die, it classes as theoretically another life, thus it should reset. You said it yourself "dying and then surviving." You still classed it as surviving.

majikmajikmajik · May 31, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

/notsigned

or else it would of already been added.....

Konig Des Todes · May 31, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Multiple ideas, multiple times suggested.

The only change to survivor I can agree with would be one that I saw a long time ago. It suggested that once a character reaches Legendary Suvivor, when they go to put it in the HoM, they can make an item, untradable, and put that in the storage, to then put in another character's HoM. The same suggestion was made for LDoA in that thread as well. Once the "title" is added to a HoM, it will be unable to be put in another. That way, that one time of getting LDoA or LS would only count once, and cannot be changed once put in a hall, nor be traded to others.

The point of survival is to not die, if it was changed to die then restart, then every single person can get it through a few UW/FoW Ursan runs *for those who want the challenge, or just simply HFFF/Dwarven Boxing *for those who want the title*. I personally would love the chance to be able to get survivor on my sin, as that would help his HoM, or just simply to reset his deaths, but I still say no to that.

Change it to this, and every single character can easily get it. Although it would be "fair" to the characters that existed before the Survivor title, I only can agree with what I stated in the first paragraph, and I say that can happen with both Survivor and LDoA.

/notsigned

Flying-Eagle · May 31, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Multiple ideas, multiple times suggested.

The only change to survivor I can agree with would be one that I saw a long time ago. It suggested that once a character reaches Legendary Suvivor, when they go to put it in the HoM, they can make an item, untradable, and put that in the storage, to then put in another character's HoM. The same suggestion was made for LDoA in that thread as well. Once the "title" is added to a HoM, it will be unable to be put in another. That way, that one time of getting LDoA or LS would only count once, and cannot be changed once put in a hall, nor be traded to others.

The point of survival is to not die, if it was changed to die then restart, then every single person can get it through a few UW/FoW Ursan runs *for those who want the challenge, or just simply HFFF/Dwarven Boxing *for those who want the title*. I personally would love the chance to be able to get survivor on my sin, as that would help his HoM, or just simply to reset his deaths, but I still say no to that.

Change it to this, and every single character can easily get it. Although it would be "fair" to the characters that existed before the Survivor title, I only can agree with what I stated in the first paragraph, and I say that can happen with both Survivor and LDoA.

/notsigned

Thank-you for actually explaining your opinion opposed to just saying "No". I agree that everyone could get it, however would everyone have the patience to do so? Maybe it should be possible that deaths reset when a campaign is completed or 1,000,000 XP is obtained - some high boundary could be used in order to reset the deaths and make it possible on our favorite characters.

It is a title track designed as a "challenge" to experience players, however I believe that it should be continuously open to all players, but still difficult to obtain. It is always extremely unfortunate when you are level 19 and you die, so you get no title what-so-ever.

It would however be nice to know some times on how oneself could actually obtain this particular title track. Does anyone have any tips?

Aldric · May 31, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

/unsigned

The survivor track is from character creation to first death and thats the way it should stay.
It's far too easy to farm XP's for very little risk that virtually every character would become a Survivor(3) with a few hours work and make the whole track pretty much more worthless than it has become already.

Darklight Derv · May 31, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldric

/unsigned

The survivor track is from character creation to first death and thats the way it should stay.
It's far too easy to farm XP's for very little risk that virtually every character would become a Survivor(3) with a few hours work and make the whole track pretty much more worthless than it has become already.

/unsigned

Exactly what he said.....if the title track would just reset itself every time somebody died, then eventually ever person in the game would have the Legendary Survivor (3) title, making it a worthless title, that you wouldn't feel proud of when you got it, cause almost every other person has it.

Tyla · May 31, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Eagle, the reasons are in previous Survivor Title Suggestions.

Taiya · May 31, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Why not put a limit on the possible amount of resets, a reasonable figure, such as three?
And each reset increases the required amount of experience to reach rank three, at incrememnts of 200,000 or more.

Masseur · May 31, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

/notsigned for obvious reasons

Flying-Eagle · May 31, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taiya

Why not put a limit on the possible amount of resets, a reasonable figure, such as three?
And each reset increases the required amount of experience to reach rank three, at incrememnts of 200,000 or more.

I totally agree. This would be fantastic.

arbiter · May 31, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

/signed, this has been suggested with many threads and many good suggestions to change the title, but anet will prob never change it....

The biggest issue is not so much that "oh u died u shouldnt be able to do it again" as much as many people's characters were created far in advance of this title being created, and therefore those people want a chance to get the title on their main characters who had died before the title existed.

MagmaRed · May 31, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Search is your friend. Use it, then respond to one of the 4577534768764245 other topics about this.

/signed for a lock
/unsigned for a change

Div · Jun 01, 2008, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Doing a search for other threads like this would help.

pumpkin pie · Jun 01, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

/signed if this is not done then i suggest the below

/signed for removal of survival title if the character ever dies because according to the logic of surviving, the character is not suppose to die even once. not before not after.

Winterclaw · Jun 01, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Maybe there should be a minimum number of posts required to create a new thread in this forum... say 10K.

EDIT: Anyways this has been asked so many times it isn't funny. The horse has been dead and no amount of beating will bring it back.